Mark your calendars: Whole Foods’ John Mackey to face off with Michael Pollan
I just got word that the long-anticipated smackdown conversation between food detective Michael Pollan and Whole Foods CEO John Mackey is finally on! I haven't been this excited about an event since 10th grade, when I camped out overnight for tickets to see R.E.M. on the New Orleans stop of their Life's Rich Pageant tour. (I threw Michael Stipe a bracelet from my front-row seat and was devastated when he didn't pick it up.)
With luck — and my Berkeley connections — I won't need a sleeping bag for tickets to this event, which is scheduled for 7 p.m., February 27, in Wheeler Hall Auditorium at UC Berkeley. Sponsored by the Knight Program in Science and Environmental Journalism, for which Pollan teaches, tickets are free and will be available starting February 1. Ticket details will be posted on the Journalism School's website at some point and of course, here.
Somehow unaware of how highly anticipated this event is and why? Pollan devoted a whole section of "The Omnivore's Dilemma" to taking Whole Foods to task for contributing to the industrialization of the organic food movement, while maintaining a misleading version of its dirt-bedecked roots by, among other things, displaying prominent photos of farmers — a marketing technique that Pollan dubbed "supermarket pastoral." He also critiqued "Big Organic" for moving to massive monocultures of organic crops, long transportation chains, and less-than-transparent animal care practices: in essence, for starting to resemble the very beast that the original movement tried to slay.
Stung, Mackey — who cofounded Whole Foods in the 1970s and is oft-described as a visionary among the "values-driven capitalism" set — fought back. He posted a long letter to Pollan on his blog defending Whole Foods as a leader and pioneer in the organic-food movement, and criticizing Pollan for not talking to him first. A fascinating back-and-forth conversation began between the two men. Mackey eventually announced a program to encourage each Whole Foods store to buy from local farmers and hold farmers markets in the parking lots, as well as a $10 million fund for small farmers to improve their practices and ramp up production sustainably.
When I interviewed Walter Robb, the co-president of Whole Foods, in October for a business magazine, he bristled at the mention of Pollan and said that the new initiatives had been in the pipeline long before "The Omnivore's Dilemma" came out. Robb — who really, really impressed me with his passion and convictions — said that while he thought T.O.D. was a great book, the food detective had "held us to a higher standard" and had painted an unfair picture of not only Whole Foods, but also Petaluma Poultry, home of Rosie the Organic Chicken.
(My article just came out last week (free registration required). Note: the cheesy headline was used over my protests. I'm working on posting the entire interview for Ethicurean readers, as some of the most interesting stuff didn't make it in.)
The Feb. 27 event is officially billed as a talk by Mackey titled "The Past, Present, and Future of Food," to be followed by the conversation with Pollan. Regardless of who you're rooting for, this is going to be one hell of a discussion.



Comments
By sam on January 10th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
wow - thanks for the headsup, i cam seriously going to have to remember to be brisk with trying to get a ticket for this.
By Gluten-Free By The Bay on January 10th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Woo! A celebrity smackdown! I really hope I can get tickets.
By Poet with a Day Job on January 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
I cannot wait for this "discussion!" I'm now in the final 90 pages of The Omnivore's Dilemma and I have to say, Pollan's writing, as well as the way he thinks, is helping me to understand my own way of thinking about food. The guy is a genius, I say, to be able to take all this information and organize it for someone like me: i care about what I eat, but I'm also a lazy, comfort-zone product of my society who is no foodie! Now I know a few things, and serially: I went into whole foods and the guy ain't lying: it truly is a supermarket pastoral...I paid more attention to the words people used to describe their products and I realized the truth: they are just selling, like any other company trying to move product.
So thanks for posting this. I'm going to get my tent and get ready to get in line for tickets!
By Niki on January 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Ack! I have plans that I cannot get out of for that night! I hope that in addition to posting your interview you will also post your thoughts on this event.
By jen maiser on January 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
I am SO THERE.
By cookiecrumb on January 10th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
Get me tickets too, oh pleeeeze. Dinner with Cranky and Crumby, my treat. Cafe Rouge.
(Treat this embarrassing plea as facetious if you must. But...)
By Lauren on January 10th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Pretty please let the school produce a webcast of this event for us East-coasters...
I was lucky enough to see Pollan face off with the VP of corporate citizenship for MacDonald's at Princeton in November and it was truly magical. He is as brilliant at a lectern as he is in writing.
By DairyQueen on January 10th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
OK you rabid Pollan fans! I've heard that there WILL be a webcast, and that there'll also be overflow rooms at Wheeler where those who don't get in can watch a live feed. Who's warranted this treatment in the past? Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and the photographer Sebastiao Salgado. Not too shabby.
And yes, I will be reporting on the event, either for the Berkeley NewsCenter or if my bosses are finally sick of what they call my "hobby horse," just for here.
By Derrick Schneider on January 10th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
We'd totally be game for it.
By Dr. Vino on January 11th, 2007 at 6:52 am
Excellent! Maybe ethicurean could do an audio recording for those of us not in the Bay Area?
By shuna fish lydon on January 12th, 2007 at 1:16 am
I am so totally there! I worked there a million years ago! And took them to the NLRB! And won! And I've met that ceo!
o yeah. I'll bring the tomatoes.
wait, right, they're not in season. darn.
By Whigsboy on January 12th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Just discovered this blog recently. Very well done. And great interview with Robb. I hope the Pollan/Robb event is Webcast. I just got TOD and hope to finish it by the time of the Webcast.
By Melissa on February 27th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Just finished viewing the live webcast and it was wonderful. If you can see it from the archive, don't miss it.